What to do policy-wise

Excellent piece from Ezra yesterday on the most sensible policy options going forward.  Of course, it relied on my (and Ezra’s) guru for all things crime policy related, Mark Kleimann.  So, what to do?

The fatalism about gun control tends to begin with a simple statistic: There are 300 million or so guns in the United States. Perhaps it would be better to live in a world where that number was much closer to zero. But since we don’t live in that world, the thinking goes, there’s nothing much that can be done.

Kleiman doesn’t buy that fatalism. Of those guns, 100 million are handguns, and handguns are used in the bulk of killings (though not in the Newtown massacre).

Moreover, Kleiman says, the evidence suggests that these old guns aren’t huge contributors to gun crime. “The fact that we have all these guns in inventory doesn’t seem to matter much because crime guns are young,” he says. “Bad guys like new toys fresh out of the box. Now, maybe they’d adapt if you made those guns hard to get. But your local branch of the Crips isn’t arming itself out of the proceeds of burglaries. They’re buying new Glocks.”

That’s where the private-sales loophole comes in: It’s depressingly easy for a gang member to drive to a gun show outside the city limits and bring back dozens of Glocks with few questions asked. That’s something we can, and should, stop.

As for the kind of guns you can buy, a tougher assault weapons ban, with fewer loopholes, and perhaps provisions outlawing bullets built to shatter in the body for maximum damage, would help reduce the lethality of the arms on the street.

“What would that troubled young man have done with less powerful weapons?” says Rick Rosenfeld, a criminologist at the University of Missouri at St. Louis. “There very likely would’ve been fewer than 26 victims.”

Once people have guns, says Phil Cook, a gun control expert at Duke University, we should sharply increase the attention to and penalties for illegal gun possession. Many cops are told to prioritize drunk driving and drug possession well above unauthorized possession of a firearm. Top police departments across the country are learning that focusing on firearm possession can cut homicides. That’s a lesson the federal government could help other police departments learn.

Even if we do all this, and more, we may still see rampage shootings, and we will still have to grieve for murdered children. But the shootings will be fewer, and the deaths rarer. [emphasis mine] We may not know how to prevent the massacre in Newtown, but we do know how to reduce gun deaths.

I do absolutely hate the frequent argument that essentially amounts to arguing we cannot completely eliminate these crimes so we should not even bother trying to reduce them in frequency or the damage that happens when they do occur.  And it is patently obvious that we can reduce their frequency and potency.

For starters, it just seems reallyreally clear that we need to completely limit high-capacity magazines.  They serve no useful civilian purpose.  Period.  If you can’t do what you need with 6 bullets, you are somewhere in Iraq of Afghanistan, not the US.  If it was up to me, I’d make the policy retro-active.  Obviously, that’s got a snowball’s chance in hell of happening, but it would make a real difference.  Even still, if Kleiman is right (and he usually is), limiting the capacity of all new guns could make a very real difference.  Of course, the determined killer might still enter a building strapped with 3 Glocks, instead of 1 Glock and 2 extra magazines.  But, those 2 extra pistols are going to set him back $1000 or so compared to the two extra magazines.  Tell me that doesn’t matter.  Again, I’m under absolutely no illusions that we can stop spree killers in this country, but for every horrible occurrence that does take place, limiting the lives lost–with no real negative impact on legitimate gun owners (i.e., limits on magazine size and ammunition purchases)– seems like an obvious, obvious step.  The fact that the Aurora, Colorado killer could buy thousands of rounds of ammo over the internet essentially anonymously whereas I have to provide my ID every time I buy Sudafed is an abomination.

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3 Responses to What to do policy-wise

  1. Mike says:

    I think laws should be passed to force gun owners to put their weapons in safes when not in immediate care and control of the owner of otherwise legally authorized person. Modern safes, especially handgun safes are designed to be opened in seconds in case of emergency. This is different enough from the law struck down in 2008 that it might not be struck down immediately. Perhaps a new challenge might win, if the Justices see enough blood on their hands. Or maybe one of them will retire or have a heart attack before it gets to the SC.

    Second, if a child (person under the age of 18/21) is in the house and a weapon is accessible to them the weapons owner can be charged with child endangerment. Even if the gun is in a room behind a closed door in a drawer, if the gun is not locked up, the owner can be charged. Unless the firearm is currently in the care and control of the owner. If the owner falls asleep with the weapon in a holster on the person and a minor is in the house the owner is no longer considered to be in care and control and can be charged.

    This would be a stick to get owners to lock up their weapons, since so many seem to be to stupid to lock them up on their own initiative. Then they cry when their child brings a friend home, he finds a loaded gun and shots himself or their own child.

    The government has the right to tax. Tax guns that are not kept in locked safes at the rate of 100 to 500 dollars every year. If you can’t prove you own a gun safe, at the point of sale the tax on a firearm would be $100 to $500.

  2. itchy says:

    “I do absolutely hate the frequent argument that essentially amounts to arguing we cannot completely eliminate these crimes so we should not even bother trying to reduce them in frequency or the damage that happens when they do occur.”

    The ridiculousness of this threshold is obvious when you apply it to any other law (or even any decision):

    We should allow drunk driving because making it illegal won’t eliminate all auto-related deaths.

    We shouldn’t punish domestic violence because it still will happen.

    We should not collect taxes, because we still will want things we can’t afford.

    And, of course, it’s just not logically sound. We have gun deaths now.

    In any other endeavor, we compare the proposal to the status quo (and/or to any competing, realistic proposals), not to perfection.

    “How much are my Powerball winnings? $150 million? Hmmm, well, that’s not an infinite amount of money, so I think I’ll just turn it down … “

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